From ocl at gih.com Tue Jan 12 22:28:56 2010 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:28:56 +0100 Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] first message Message-ID: <4B4CF7A8.3000105@gih.com> This is the first message to the list - to check if the archives are working correctly. O. From ocl at gih.com Tue Jan 12 22:57:07 2010 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:57:07 +0100 Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] Introductions of who's working on the project Message-ID: <4B4CFE43.30703@gih.com> Hey everybody, so you're now subscribed to our working mailing list for the IPv6 project. Current project partners are: * TwentytwentyMedia Ltd, London, UK. IPv6 connectivity + input data files etc. http://www.2020media.com Rex Wickham - rex at 2020media.com Alan Barnett - alan at 2020media.com * CTM International Ltd, London, UK. Hardware supplier Omer Hamid - omer at ctm-international.co.uk * Nile University, Smart Village, Cairo, Egypt. Programming/coding Teams http://www.cis.nileu.edu.eg/ Dr. Moustafa Ghanem - mmg at doc.ic.ac.uk Dr. Sameh El-Ansary - sansary at nileuniversity.edu.eg Leads programming team of IPv6 DNS research engine Dr. Mohamed Abouelhoda - mabouelhoda at yahoo.com Leads programming team of Front End Web server * Global Information Highway Ltd Project design/coordination Dr. Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond - ocl at gih.com * ISOC England Publicity partner / support * Internet Society Funding http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/projects/awards.php?id=10 When I'm next in London, I'll convene a meeting with Omer, Rex, Alan and Moustafa for us to put a face to emails. I'll keep you posted on this. I'll also travel to Cairo sometime in February to meet Sameh and Mohamed. That's all for now. Warmest regards, Olivier From mmg at doc.ic.ac.uk Tue Jan 12 23:11:30 2010 From: mmg at doc.ic.ac.uk (mmg at doc.ic.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] Introductions of who's working on the project In-Reply-To: <4B4CFE43.30703@gih.com> Message-ID: Olivier, Thanks a lot for initiating the mailing list. Dear all, Looking forward to work with you all closely. Moustafa On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote: > Hey everybody, > > so you're now subscribed to our working mailing list for the IPv6 project. > > Current project partners are: > > * TwentytwentyMedia Ltd, London, UK. > IPv6 connectivity + input data files etc. > http://www.2020media.com > > Rex Wickham - rex at 2020media.com > Alan Barnett - alan at 2020media.com > > * CTM International Ltd, London, UK. > Hardware supplier > > Omer Hamid - omer at ctm-international.co.uk > > * Nile University, Smart Village, Cairo, Egypt. > Programming/coding Teams > http://www.cis.nileu.edu.eg/ > > Dr. Moustafa Ghanem - mmg at doc.ic.ac.uk > > Dr. Sameh El-Ansary - sansary at nileuniversity.edu.eg > Leads programming team of IPv6 DNS research engine > > Dr. Mohamed Abouelhoda - mabouelhoda at yahoo.com > Leads programming team of Front End Web server > > * Global Information Highway Ltd > Project design/coordination > > Dr. Olivier Cr????pin-Leblond - ocl at gih.com > > * ISOC England > Publicity partner / support > > * Internet Society > Funding > http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/projects/awards.php?id=10 > > > When I'm next in London, I'll convene a meeting with Omer, Rex, Alan and > Moustafa for us to put a face to emails. I'll keep you posted on this. I'll > also travel to Cairo sometime in February to meet Sameh and Mohamed. > > That's all for now. > > Warmest regards, > > Olivier > > > > _______________________________________________ > IPv6crawler-wg mailing list > IPv6crawler-wg at gih.com > http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/ipv6crawler-wg > From ocl at gih.com Wed Jan 13 23:30:35 2010 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:30:35 +0100 Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] London Visit // Domain Name Message-ID: <4B4E579B.70206@gih.com> Hey everyone, two things, quickly: 1. I've booked my London trip. Arriving Wednesday 20th Jan Departing Thursday 28th Jan In that time I'd like to: a. install Centos 5.X on front end & back end machines, update to latest specs & load test them Discussed with Omer: Front End Web Server: HP DL140 G2 with 1Tb disk (possible RAID config on this) Back End Crawler: HP DL360 G4P with 2 x 150Gb Ultra 320 10K drives configured in RAID b. install them at Data Centre (Telehouse North or East), along with a CISCO 2811 router Physical installation date to be decided with Rex and Alan Will native IPv6 connectivity be readily available? (paperwork processing) 2. In search of a domain name for the project, I suggest: ipv6metrics.org or: ipv6matrix.org (which has a nice sound to it) (we could also register the corresponding .com and .net in both cases) Let me know what your preference is. Kind regards, Olivier From sansary at nileuniversity.edu.eg Thu Jan 14 09:17:35 2010 From: sansary at nileuniversity.edu.eg (Sameh El-Ansary) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:17:35 +0200 Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] Comparison with state-of-the-art In-Reply-To: <4B4E579B.70206@gih.com> Message-ID: Hi Olivier, I have started looking at the tunneling service. really cool!! I have also found on the site a link to these statistics: http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi They cover mainly: num of ipv6 domains inside each .com, .net, etc.. Domains top web servers with ipv6 I also have found that they are tracking the growth of ipv6 and the the decay of ipv4. Which I would say is a not-totally-overlapping set of what we plan to do. And I was just wondering about how are we compared to others? and that I wanted to know more about the state-of-the-art in ipv6 penetration surveying. I mean our output should not be limited to statistics but rather arguing about their novelty. I intend to put a student on it. I just wondered if you/other-members have any initial leads/thoughts about that? Regards, Sameh From ocl at gih.com Thu Jan 14 09:58:44 2010 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:58:44 +0100 Subject: [IPv6crawler-wg] Fwd: Additional comments [ISOC Community Grants] Message-ID: <4B4EEAD4.3050009@gih.com> Hello Sameh, you ask: > Which I would say is a not-totally-overlapping set of what we plan to do. > And I was just wondering about how are we compared to others? and that I > wanted to know more about the state-of-the-art in ipv6 penetration > surveying. I mean our output should not be limited to statistics but rather > arguing about their novelty. Indeed - and good question. I just realised that you did not get a copy of some of the correspondence pre-dating your involvement in the project. After I submitted the first proposal to ISOC Community Grants, I received an email back, appended to this message. It points out "similar" surveys already in existence. Please take some time in looking at them. We aim to surpass all of these by far. My initial inspiration for the project came from the first survey http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html But I was frustrated that this did not go far enough and was really too small scale and superficial to be useful in the long run. The document "Appendix B" which I sent earlier was the response I supplied to Connie Kendig's enquiry. I was glad that ISOC asked those questions because it showed how much interest there is from them. The project is really significant in their strategy to "defend the Internet Ecosystem" (which I'll email on this list separately, in case you're interested). I hope this helps, Olivier -------- Message original -------- Sujet: Additional comments [ISOC Community Grants] Date : Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:14:11 -0500 De : Connie Kendig Pour : Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Hi Olivier. I shared your project application with our Standards& Technology team here at ISOC. Given that IPv6 promotion is a key technical area for ISOC, we would like to make sure that your proposed work aligns with their goals and meets the standard of work they aim to complete in this area. Overall, the S&T team supports your proposed work but it did leave them with a few questions and some suggestions. Given that you prepared the application while traveling, and that ISOC fully supports the invigoration of your Chapter through the successful implementation of this project, we propose to you to address the below comments within 1.5 weeks' time (e.g. by 10 Dec) at which point the selection Committee and our S&T team will review it again. One of two things will happen at that point: we will agree to fund as submitted (with revisions) or we will urge you to re-apply next round - those decisions will be in May 2010. You may, of course, at this time decide against revising your project now and opt to re- apply without responding to the below. See S&T's feedback: [snip] Given that: o http://www.mrp.net/IPv6_Survey.html [which you've already responded to] o https://fit.nokia.com/lars/meter/ipv6.html o http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi already exist, we'd really like to see more value-add and originality here before we agree to fund this. Some questions that we think OCL still needs to answer: o How will the list of domains per (cc|g)TLD be generated? o What is the format of the machine-readable output? o Will the scripts/code generated be made freely available? We'd also like to see a lot more detail of the proposed testing, e.g. - list of domain prefixes to be tested - connectivity to port 80? - SMTP transaction with MXs? - etc. Ways in which we think this effort could improve over existing reports would include: o identification of domains hosted behind IPv6-to-IPv4 webproxies o identification of domains hosted on 6to4 o identification of domains with broken AAAA records (e.g. ::1, 192:192:168:168:1:1:1:1, IPv4-mapped) o characterising latency differences between connectivity to A and AAAA for a domain o characterising MTU differences between IPv4 and IPv6 paths o characterising hop-count differences between IPv4 and IPv6 paths o characterising consistency of DNS information for AAAA records o offering a programmatic interface to the data and archives [snip] We generally do not allow for such significant revisions/comments in our selection process but we feel strongly about your abilities and the potential implications for your Chapter. 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Kind regards, Olivier -------- Message original -------- Sujet: [arin-ppml] Consumer trial activities with IPv6 Date : Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:48:56 -0500 De : John Curran Pour : arin ppml FYI - It's particularly important for the PPML community to be aware of consumer deployments of IPv6, as consumers might not be directly represented on this list. :-) I forward this for your consideration to the extent relevant to IPv6 Internet number policy formation. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN > From: John Jason Brzozowski > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:23:51 -0500 > To:"nanog at nanog.org" > Conversation: Comcast IPv6 Trials > Subject: Comcast IPv6 Trials > > Folks, > > I am emailing you today to share some news that we hope you will find > interesting. > > Today we are announcing our 2010 IPv6 trial plans. For more information > please visit the following web site: > > http://www.comcast6.net > > We have also made available a partial, dual-stack version of our portal > which can be found at: > > http://ipv6.comcast.net > > Please do not hesitate to contact me via email with any questions, comments, > or clarifications. > > If you feel that others will find this information interesting feel free to > forward this message. > > Regards, > > John > ========================================= > John Jason Brzozowski > Comcast Cable > e)mailto:john_brzozowski at cable.comcast.com > o) 609-377-6594 > m) 484-962-0060 _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net). 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The HP Proliant DL140 and DL360 server have both been sourced, built and supplied by Omer. * Dell DL 140 - Web Server - Dual Xeon Processors running at 3.4 GHz 2MB Level 2 Cache 800MHz front-side bus supporting Hyper-Threading Technology - 4Gb RAM - 2 x 1Tb SATA disks, running as a software RAID - 500W power supply * Dell DL360 - Crawler - Dual Intel Xeon 3.8 GHz/800MHz - 2MB L2 - 4Gb RAM - 2 x 340Gb hot-swappable SCSI disks running as a hardware RAID - Dual 500W power supply, hot swappable Thanks Omer! Both are now running Centos v 5.4 Pictures of the servers with Rex and Omer in the GIH office, are attached to this message, along with the CISCO 2811. The CISCO 2811 has now been installed by Rex and Alan in the Data Centre, and the servers will be installed in the forthcoming week. Our schedule has slipped slightly, since Rex and Alan from 2020media have gone on an IPv6 course a RIPE headquarters in Amsterdam on thursday and friday last week. However, this is fine because it will enable Rex and Alan to know the subtleties of IPv6. Also, we now already have an IPv6 prefix which will be our base for IPv6 addresses, and it is implemented in the router at: 2a00:19e8::1 - thanks Rex and Alan! [root at waikiki ocl]# traceroute 2a00:19e8::1 traceroute to 2a00:19e8::1 (2a00:19e8::1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 adsl-gw6.gih.co.uk (2001:470:1f09:92d::1) 3.970 ms 5.282 ms 5.263 ms 2 ocl999-1.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1f08:92d::1) 49.776 ms 72.009 ms 71.994 ms 3 1g-4-6.core1.lon5.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:0:67::1) 72.791 ms 72.742 ms 73.999 ms 4 g1-1-1-t40-br3.ipv6.router.uk.clara.net (2001:7f8:4::20ea:1) 72.619 ms * * 5 ten1-0-0.t40-cr1.ipv6.router.uk.clara.net (2001:a88:0:1::119) 73.747 ms * * 6 g4-1-t40-br2.ipv6.router.uk.clara.net (2001:a88:0:1::d9) 79.980 ms 76.350 ms 75.836 ms 7 2a00:19e8::1 (2a00:19e8::1) 79.473 ms 35.184 ms 86.377 ms [root at waikiki ocl]# I have a conference call with Sameh and Moustafa on monday to update on progress. I've created accounts for everyone on the computers. I'll email you separately with your account details. 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