From ocl at gih.com Sat May 9 00:21:56 2009 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 01:21:56 +0200 Subject: [Netreach-L] Netreach-L has moved Message-ID: Hi everybody, I hope you are all doing well. Just a small note to tell you all that the NetReach-L Mailing list has moved. The list's posting address netreach-l at gih.com is still the same, but a lot of things have changed behind the scenes. You must have received an automated welcoming note telling you about all the new features of MailMan, the new list software on which Netreach-L is running. You'll see that it has a lot of new features, which makes it better for you and for me. Netreach-L used to run on Listserv, then on Majordomo, which was fine a few years ago, but this was when the computer it was running on was an 80386 connected to the Internet via dial-up at 9600 baud. Times have changed. Back in those days, most email was just text, while now we send attachments and HTML email, and Majordomo used to cough a lot on this new stuff. I am running other lists on the same machine, and it really started to become a headache. The computer changed a few times (upgrades, always upgrades), and then got connected to the Internet via ADSL. Recently, I've upgraded the machine again, with one that has dual Pentium III processors, a RAID array and is running the latest flavour of Linux, CENTOS 5 (aka Linux version 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5). It's connected to the Internet via an 8M ADSL link, but also tunnelled IPv6, which means accessing your MailMan account preferences can take place both on IPv4 and also on IPv6! Last but not least, it is now possible to consult online archives of the list, a feature which was not previously possible. Anyway, I hope this will take us another 10 years, until the next upgrade! Warm regards, -- Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD http://www.gih.com/ocl.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk Sat May 9 07:03:49 2009 From: sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk (Sabine Kurjo McNeill) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:03:49 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected Message-ID: <00b301c9d06b$f0629380$d127ba80$@co.uk> Dear NetReachers First of all, I?d love to know who is still on this list and how many we are. It?s really good of Olivier to keep up with the technology, and I?m glad to learn about MailMan. The only lists I use are from the two online petitions that I?ve published: Stop the Cash Crumble to Equalize the Credit Crunch and Financial Fairness for Voters and Taxpayers, please!. Secondly, I want to point out how much the British Computer Society provides now what we used to have in Room 97 in County Hall: a great meeting place in Central London. Advantage: free coffee machine, open meeting space with 3 internet computers and 5 spaces where you plug your laptop in, besides lots of meetings of Specialist Groups on all sorts of computer related topics. Difficult to find the right meeting, since that co-ordination is still in the making, but people are trying: volunteers and staff alike. I have only introduced people individually so far, because I like to go there for small meetings. Associate membership has risen from ?20 to ?35 a year. The only big meeting I organised recently was ?Challenging the Recession? at the House of Commons in the Grand Committee Room in the morning and the Gladstone Room 14 in the afternoon. A kind of summary of where we stand re the origins of the crisis and its effects . Otherwise I keep trying to get either ?free developers? or investors to fund programming for my 3D Metrics concepts and software methods. The next big step consists of a team of 4 developers in Berlin who will use the multimedia centre in my mum?s village in the former DDR where I?ve been coming for years now. They will make my approach to digital image analysis accessible via the web. The German blog I started two years ago has been visited more than 4,600 times! I love using Wordpress for blogging and have even advanced from Wordpress.com to Wordpress.org. Any chance of hearing from you what you are and have been up to? Yours most connectedly, Sabine 3D Metrics , London [portal leading to site , blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence , blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies , Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ocl at gih.com Sat May 9 09:18:36 2009 From: ocl at gih.com (Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:18:36 +0200 Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected References: <00b301c9d06b$f0629380$d127ba80$@co.uk> Message-ID: <6B8013E7C4D841D590EE18282DFE048E@GIH.CO.UK> Hello Sabine, Good to hear from you! I'll follow-up from what I've been up to: still running Global Information Highway Ltd, sub-contracting for BT (installation of corporate intranets), but also sending refurbished CISCO telecom equipment to Africa. Very involved with ISOC & ICANN, and all aspects of Internet Governance. My main goal with these organisations at the moment is to push for IPv6 adoption in order to get the Internet ready to evolve into a Next Generation Network (NGN). The threats, if it does not evolve, are for the Internet to be replaced by a network where governments have all governance control (ITU / UN model), and/or Telecom Corporations have all control (a return to the PSTN billing methods with ultimate Telco monopolies). That's about all for me. As for the subscriber list, it is possible to access it from the netreach-l list information page. http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/netreach-l For privacy reasons, this is available only for subscribers of the list. Let's hear from others, please! Kind regards, Olivier ----- Original Message ----- From: Sabine Kurjo McNeill To: netreach-l at gih.co.uk Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:03 AM Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected Dear NetReachers First of all, I'd love to know who is still on this list and how many we are. It's really good of Olivier to keep up with the technology, and I'm glad to learn about MailMan. The only lists I use are from the two online petitions that I've published: Stop the Cash Crumble to Equalize the Credit Crunch and Financial Fairness for Voters and Taxpayers, please!. Secondly, I want to point out how much the British Computer Society provides now what we used to have in Room 97 in County Hall: a great meeting place in Central London. Advantage: free coffee machine, open meeting space with 3 internet computers and 5 spaces where you plug your laptop in, besides lots of meetings of Specialist Groups on all sorts of computer related topics. Difficult to find the right meeting, since that co-ordination is still in the making, but people are trying: volunteers and staff alike. I have only introduced people individually so far, because I like to go there for small meetings. Associate membership has risen from ?20 to ?35 a year. The only big meeting I organised recently was "Challenging the Recession" at the House of Commons in the Grand Committee Room in the morning and the Gladstone Room 14 in the afternoon. A kind of summary of where we stand re the origins of the crisis and its effects. Otherwise I keep trying to get either 'free developers' or investors to fund programming for my 3D Metrics concepts and software methods. The next big step consists of a team of 4 developers in Berlin who will use the multimedia centre in my mum's village in the former DDR where I've been coming for years now. They will make my approach to digital image analysis accessible via the web. The German blog I started two years ago has been visited more than 4,600 times! I love using Wordpress for blogging and have even advanced from Wordpress.com to Wordpress.org. Any chance of hearing from you what you are and have been up to? Yours most connectedly, Sabine 3D Metrics, London [portal leading to site, blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence, blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies, Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Netreach-L mailing list Netreach-L at gih.co.uk http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/netreach-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gcox at freeuk.com Sat May 9 20:10:19 2009 From: gcox at freeuk.com (Geoff Cox) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:10:19 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] from Geoff Cox Message-ID: <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A@gc009> Hello, I've just seen Sabine's question re who is still around! I am still involved in creating web sites. Three current ones are for educational research projects - speech problems, how we feeling music and sign recognition for deaf people. The results from the music one were the subject of a Royal Institution meeting last Wednesday. Re other people - Len is no longer living mostly in Worcester Park but the other side of London. The Sutton Library Computer Club which both Len and I were involved with came to an end a year or so ago. Who else is out there?! Cheers, Geoff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mailpjw at btinternet.com Sun May 10 23:10:50 2009 From: mailpjw at btinternet.com (John Williams) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:10:50 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] Hello from South Wales Message-ID: <008e01c9d1bc$2e022880$8a067980$@com> Good to hear from you all. I'm still working at the National Museum running the ICT Department in Cardiff. Lots of changes in the Museum sector as exhibitions and interpretation move out of the Museums onto the web and, we hope, become far more accessible as a result. John John Williams _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk Mon May 11 10:03:08 2009 From: sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk (Sabine Kurjo McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:03:08 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] Hello from South Wales In-Reply-To: <008e01c9d1bc$2e022880$8a067980$@com> References: <008e01c9d1bc$2e022880$8a067980$@com> Message-ID: <012a01c9d217$51e85070$f5b8f150$@co.uk> Glad to read about your Welsh input, John! My nephew chose Cardiff for celebrating New Year?s before going to HongKong!... Kind regards from Brandenburg! Sabine 3D Metrics, London [portal leading to site, blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence, blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies, Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 From: netreach-l-bounces at gih.co.uk [mailto:netreach-l-bounces at gih.co.uk] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: 10 May 2009 23:11 Cc: netreach-l at gih.com Subject: [Netreach-L] Hello from South Wales Good to hear from you all. I?m still working at the National Museum running the ICT Department in Cardiff. Lots of changes in the Museum sector as exhibitions and interpretation move out of the Museums onto the web and, we hope, become far more accessible as a result. John John Williams _____ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk Mon May 11 10:03:08 2009 From: sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk (Sabine Kurjo McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:03:08 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] FW: Brasscheck TV: Shutting down the Internet Message-ID: <013201c9d217$53125180$f936f480$@co.uk> As announced. -----Original Message----- From: brasschecktv at aweber.com [mailto:brasschecktv at aweber.com] On Behalf Of Brasscheck TV Sent: 07 May 2009 10:06 To: Sabine Subject: Brasscheck TV: Shutting down the Internet Sabine It's amazing the degree to which the Internet has made the free flow of useful, timely information possible. Which is probably why the powers that be are endlessly searching for ways to "regulate" it (i.e. remove the serious threat it imposes on them.) There's a bill in the Senate right now to make it possible for the government to respond to "threats" by turning off part of all of the Net. Details: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/613.html - Brasscheck P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and videos with friends and colleagues. That's how we grow. Thanks. ============================== Brasscheck TV 2380 California St. San Francisco, CA 94115 To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit: http://www.aweber.com/z/r/?zAxs7OwctMxsnCwczMwstEa0LOwsjEycnA== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk Mon May 11 10:03:08 2009 From: sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk (Sabine Kurjo McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:03:08 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected In-Reply-To: <6B8013E7C4D841D590EE18282DFE048E@GIH.CO.UK> References: <00b301c9d06b$f0629380$d127ba80$@co.uk> <6B8013E7C4D841D590EE18282DFE048E@GIH.CO.UK> Message-ID: <013a01c9d217$56d7e500$0487af00$@co.uk> Excellent to read that, Olivier! Thank You! So glad that you?re on the ball. Will forward you related mails: Jay Rockefeller in Congress, and moves in the European Parliament. Free net-spirits, UNITE!!! Sabine 3D Metrics, London [portal leading to site, blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence, blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies, Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [mailto:ocl at gih.com] Sent: 09 May 2009 09:19 To: Sabine Kurjo McNeill; netreach-l at gih.co.uk Subject: Re: [Netreach-L] Staying connected Hello Sabine, Good to hear from you! I'll follow-up from what I've been up to: still running Global Information Highway Ltd, sub-contracting for BT (installation of corporate intranets), but also sending refurbished CISCO telecom equipment to Africa. Very involved with ISOC & ICANN, and all aspects of Internet Governance. My main goal with these organisations at the moment is to push for IPv6 adoption in order to get the Internet ready to evolve into a Next Generation Network (NGN). The threats, if it does not evolve, are for the Internet to be replaced by a network where governments have all governance control (ITU / UN model), and/or Telecom Corporations have all control (a return to the PSTN billing methods with ultimate Telco monopolies). That's about all for me. As for the subscriber list, it is possible to access it from the netreach-l list information page. http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/netreach-l For privacy reasons, this is available only for subscribers of the list. Let's hear from others, please! Kind regards, Olivier ----- Original Message ----- From: Sabine Kurjo McNeill To: netreach-l at gih.co.uk Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:03 AM Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected Dear NetReachers First of all, I?d love to know who is still on this list and how many we are. It?s really good of Olivier to keep up with the technology, and I?m glad to learn about MailMan. The only lists I use are from the two online petitions that I?ve published: Stop the Cash Crumble to Equalize the Credit Crunch and Financial Fairness for Voters and Taxpayers, please!. Secondly, I want to point out how much the British Computer Society provides now what we used to have in Room 97 in County Hall: a great meeting place in Central London. Advantage: free coffee machine, open meeting space with 3 internet computers and 5 spaces where you plug your laptop in, besides lots of meetings of Specialist Groups on all sorts of computer related topics. Difficult to find the right meeting, since that co-ordination is still in the making, but people are trying: volunteers and staff alike. I have only introduced people individually so far, because I like to go there for small meetings. Associate membership has risen from ?20 to ?35 a year. The only big meeting I organised recently was ?Challenging the Recession? at the House of Commons in the Grand Committee Room in the morning and the Gladstone Room 14 in the afternoon. A kind of summary of where we stand re the origins of the crisis and its effects . Otherwise I keep trying to get either ?free developers? or investors to fund programming for my 3D Metrics concepts and software methods. The next big step consists of a team of 4 developers in Berlin who will use the multimedia centre in my mum?s village in the former DDR where I?ve been coming for years now. They will make my approach to digital image analysis accessible via the web. The German blog I started two years ago has been visited more than 4,600 times! I love using Wordpress for blogging and have even advanced from Wordpress.com to Wordpress.org. Any chance of hearing from you what you are and have been up to? Yours most connectedly, Sabine 3D Metrics , London [portal leading to site , blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence , blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies , Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 _____ _______________________________________________ Netreach-L mailing list Netreach-L at gih.co.uk http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/netreach-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at globalnet.co.uk Mon May 11 10:03:08 2009 From: sabine at globalnet.co.uk (Sabine K McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:03:08 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] FW: Proposed EU internet proposals Message-ID: <011701c9d217$4eeaeef0$ecc0ccd0$@co.uk> From: Barbara Panvel [mailto:bapanvel at gmail.com] Sent: 01 May 2009 14:36 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: Fw: Proposed EU internet proposals Was forced - by a request from friend of friend - to dig further. ----- Original Message ----- To: Barbara Panvel Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Proposed EU internet proposals Thanks, Barbara. This helps a good deal. It's much better than Jonny Munkhammar's article in The Guardian, which is interesting but, unfortunately, I can't get over the fact that he's the research director for the European Enterprise Institute, a right-wing organisation (http://www.european-enterprise.org/) that is still in love with Margaret Thatcher's free enterprise and free market policies, most of which I think would run counter to those of SIMPOL. Your help is greatly appreciated. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Panvel To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@orange.fr Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Proposed EU internet proposals I have been asked for the text of the proposal. See the link below. To read all the clauses would take a great deal of time and patience. http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expert/briefing_page/54105-124-05-19-2009 0421BRI54104-04-05-2009-2009/default_en.htm http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/file.jsp?id=5563982 Telecom markets: Internet access the key issue The agreement reached on the three telecoms reports covers the regulatory framework, including radio spectrum measures, users' rights, data privacy and the creation of a body to step up co-operation between national regulators to tackle telecoms regulation. The package aims to boost competition and consumer rights and should encourage investment in next generation fibre and wireless networks. Amendment 46 (previously 138) In April 2009, civil organisations drew attention to the potential dropping of Amendment 46 to the EU Telecoms Package, which was first approved as Amendment 138 by the European Parliament in the first reading on 24 September 2008. After the French representatives had been demanding the withdrawal of Amendment 138, the Committee on Industry, Research and Energy (ITRE) took a vote on the by then renumbered Amendment 46 on 21 April 2009, on the basis of an offered compromise by the committee's chairwoman Catherine Trautmann which would soften the intended ban to a mere Recital which only constitutes a recommendation for the implementation into national law. Internet screening The proposition also makes it possible for Internet service providers (ISP) to decide which web pages users are allowed to visit, potentially limiting access to websites critical of the ISP or the government. ISPs would then sell internet packages, similar to TV packages, allowing access to a limited number of websites. Critics claim this will limit freedom of speech on the Internet. Similar legislation is further advanced in America, process initiated in 2006. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5063072.stm A Guide to Net Neutrality for Google Users "Net neutrality" is an issue that will shape the future of the Internet. Google has created this guide to net neutrality, which includes a brief overview of the subject, an update on where things stand in the U.S. policy debate, a set of actions you can take to protect the Internet, and the text of an open letter from our CEO, Eric Schmidt. What is Net Neutrality? Network neutrality is the principle that Internet users should be in control of what content they view and what applications they use on the Internet. The Internet has operated according to this neutrality principle since its earliest days. Indeed, it is this neutrality that has allowed many companies, including Google, to launch, grow, and innovate. Fundamentally, net neutrality is about equal access to the Internet. In our view, the broadband carriers should not be permitted to use their market power to discriminate against competing applications or content. Just as telephone companies are not permitted to tell consumers who they can call or what they can say, broadband carriers should not be allowed to use their market power to control activity online. Today, the neutrality of the Internet is at stake as the broadband carriers want Congress's permission to determine what content gets to you first and fastest. Put simply, this would fundamentally alter the openness of the Internet. What is the Current Status of Net Neutrality? Net neutrality is a major issue as the U.S. considers new telecommunications laws. The U.S. House of Representatives passed its telecommunications bill, H.R. 5252, in May 2006, without adequate net neutrality protections. Now the fight has moved to U.S. Senate. On June 28, the Senate Commerce Committee passed its own telecom bill, S. 2686. While an amendment to the bill that would have added meaningful net neutrality safeguards failed 11-11, this tie vote marks a significant political victory and gives the effort new momentum. The debate now shifts to the full Senate, where advocates will be working to get strong net neutrality language is any bill that the Senate considers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk Mon May 11 12:43:07 2009 From: sabine at 3dmetrics.co.uk (Sabine Kurjo McNeill) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:43:07 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] from Geoff Cox In-Reply-To: <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A@gc009> References: <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A@gc009> Message-ID: <01c001c9d22d$ae518870$0af49950$@co.uk> Geoff Glad to hear from you again!!! Why don?t you list some of your sites??? Are you going to build a site for Len as well??? It?s so funny how I?ve just encouraged the upgrading from modem to broadband in a little multi-media centre with age old machines in my little village in the former DDR ? in memory of hand held acoustic couplers that we carried into Room 97 in County Hall. Well, Room 14 in the House of Commons has served to set the scenes for video technology to be put on the web... There is a German poem by Hermann Hesse that says ?we should walk from room to room with great serenity?... But some translators used the word ?realm? and ?space? instead of those literal rooms... Nearly spaced out, S 3D Metrics, London [portal leading to site, blog and archive with > 58,000 visitors] Expanding Dr. Yunus' Sphere of Influence, blog since Feb. 08 with > 17,000 hits Forum for Stable Currencies, Web and Westminster Currently: Buschower Dorfstr. 16 14715 M?rkisch Luch T: 0049 33876 90166 M: 0044 7968 039 141 From: netreach-l-bounces at gih.co.uk [mailto:netreach-l-bounces at gih.co.uk] On Behalf Of Geoff Cox Sent: 09 May 2009 20:10 To: netreach-l at gih.co.uk Subject: [Netreach-L] from Geoff Cox Hello, I?ve just seen Sabine?s question re who is still around! I am still involved in creating web sites. Three current ones are for educational research projects - speech problems, how we feeling music and sign recognition for deaf people. The results from the music one were the subject of a Royal Institution meeting last Wednesday. Re other people ? Len is no longer living mostly in Worcester Park but the other side of London. The Sutton Library Computer Club which both Len and I were involved with came to an end a year or so ago. Who else is out there?! Cheers, Geoff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peterws at tobeistodo.demon.co.uk Wed May 13 00:34:13 2009 From: peterws at tobeistodo.demon.co.uk (P. Wingfield-Stratford) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] from Peter Wingfield-Stratford In-Reply-To: <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A@gc009> References: <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A@gc009> Message-ID: To NetReachers From Peter Wingfield-Stratford peterws at ytobeistodo.demon.co.uk Hi All NetReachers Im all out there too and still mostly all there !!! News from Oxford Oxford Barn is still as it was, a bit dusty and dead bumblebees ! I have to lay a new cable for the Broadband as it just has a Wireless now we disposed of the old computer telephone line. Most of my work is done now in the house. Im still working on my History of Healing told in Art and Culture. Called Traditions of Health. Its an idea that came from my work a long time ago with Conrad Gorinsky you may recall. I still use my midget hand scanner and Direct store the OCR text but now have found a mobile phone camera takes photos detailed enough to OCR and do that on a big software package. Its a good way to copy picture from books too and sometimes saves a lot of problems. I can move stuff from the Main PC to the Ipaq and the Mobile and scanner very easily by a lot of fancy things, wires, Infra Red, Bluetooth etc. Its become a lot of electronic data content and much of it hangs round my neck in An Ipaq PDA. It is more convenient to edit in a social sense that way so Im doing that now quite a lot. My main job is data-capture and sorting sifting and collating it into files for a massive database system. Im using a digital Ordnance Survey map on the Ipaq to check my data locations and mark a lot of places with flags so I can find them and maybe visit a few. Thats how usefully technology interacts nowadays. !: 25000 OS maps on the Ipaq are amazing. Tom Tom is a toy by comparison. I have garnered a few French digital maps and am interested in any for Spain, Italy and Germany if people can help. I need location indices with 1: 25000 scale maps for PC Windows 2000 on or Windows Mobile 5. I have abstracted vast Vast place name location list for all UK OS. I am trying to sort out placename term-synonyms matching to topics in my TOH database. Aka Wells - just the term 'well' finds over 600 matches in letters A-B of the whole of UK Map placenames. Just think how many wells there were that people thought at one time to be important ! And there are lots of synonyms and other terms I need to cover. Im finding out a lot of interesting history. Wells leads to Lepers, which leads to Pilgrimages, Almshouses and hospitals. Anyone want a potted history of the Knights Hospitallers, or the Miraculous Icons ? I seem to have lists of a galaxy of Healing saints art found in art works all over Europe, let alone miraculous springs, wells, lakes, caves, stones, relics and other oddities. We even found a Wellhouse of a Holy Well designed by Christopher Wren in an outpost of Stanton St John ! Its extraordinary. A lovely Prof Sournier in Paris at age 80 plus in his pyjamas told me there are more things connected with healing going on in the streets of Paris than in many hospitals there. I think I begin to understand. Now begins the big task, to fit it all into a logic structure that people can interrogate. This project cant fit into a linear format, a Hypebase is the only solution. Its because of the nature of the Hyper-base that I have to develop a novel presentation to deliver the historical material. It has to be internet deliverable and conventional pocketed databases are inherently unsuitable for storage. I have to store linear text it seems covering from the time of Adam & Eve to Darwin and with capability to splinter data of any date into parts that represent the topics of the filing system and recover data for display as any format of material, text or a variety of media. Searching and Finding atoms of data for recovery is another interesting problem - aka Google. I have been studying Java quite a lot, so I can develop a peculiar presentation software application for the database. I am still using the crazy software IDE called Build-It that makes the Java logic fairly straightforward. Unfortunately the firm went belly up in Queensland and folded deregistered last year so it is a development system up for grabs. I can continue to use everything if I can replace my Java Compiler. I am now looking for a Java Afficiano who can help me find a part of the Sun Original Java source software of the Javac compiler. I have to compare the decompiled source code of my Java Compiler Class with original Sun Javac source code to understand how to adapt a modern Javac compiler. Sun gives later source code out a Public domain, but not Ver 1.2. Javac source code. I need the original to make the job simpler. Can anyone find me a Source Code for Javac Ver 1.2 ?? Can anyone find me someone HIGH in Sun Corp (now Oracle) to help ?? Did IBM or Borland get a copy of Suns Javac Ver 1.2 source code ??? Stanton St John is lovely still, The garden is different, but the pubs still both going and the view is idyllic. We lost the Post Office but keep the shop. We still patronise the Oxford Tube and its still every 10 mins. The Church Bells now ring music again after silence for 30 years. Jane and I are now proud Grandparents to Iona May. The Air is still fairly Thin up here but despite that Im usually fit enough still for a 12 mile hike on the Ridgeway. Dear Tom Ruben passed away this time last year. I heard the BOOG Osborne user group is at last being wound up. Latterly many of the NetReach country-meetings enjoyed company from BOOG and GLOW as well as NetReach and prospered under the efficient organisation of Tom Ruben. He was a really lovely man and his like will be missed. Toms' Executor has been in touch and I plan to help her sort out his stuff, but John Parmigiani has already been on that too. I am hoping maybe to find a list of Osborne folk and Glow and Boogers in a short while maybe. Those who came to The HoneyCafe will be glad to hear Lynn Hurn is managing OK also the Cafe. Talgarth took the headlines recently as they cultivate Daffodills now and the idea is to process them for drugs - Alzheimers ??? I thought they were poisonous by the way. Perhaps its Bulbous Euthanasia !!! Politics and IT I occasionally write to MPs about IT concerns and am very concerned at the present climate of increasing reduction of freedoms for electronic information, also the loss of privacy in all forms of mail and database also scattering private data to whoever of all forms of finance and taxation. Its absurd. Can Big Brother REALLY make use of all that data. If not its crap. Best thing is an alliance to publish electronic rubbish and swamp them all ! Did you hear Brits invented the Search engine in Scotland, long before Google ! We can surely come up with a way to defeat all the snoopery. NetReach Forever, maybe rename as NatterNet. Peter Wingfield-Stratford In message <33689079449641159088C8DD9BBDF17A at gc009>, Geoff Cox writes >Hello, >? >I?ve just seen Sabine?s question re who is still around! >? > >I am still involved in creating web sites. >? >Three current ones are for educational research projects - speech >problems, how we feeling music and sign recognition for deaf people. >? >The results from the music one were the subject of a Royal Institution >meeting last Wednesday. >? > >Re other people ? Len is no longer living mostly in Worcester Park but the >other side of London. The Sutton Library Computer Club which both Len >and I were involved with came to an end a year or so ago. > >? >Who else is out there?! >? >Cheers, >? >Geoff >? >_______________________________________________ >Netreach-L mailing list >Netreach-L at gih.co.uk >http://salsa.gih.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/netreach-l -- P. Wingfield-Stratford From sabine at 3d-metrics.com Wed May 13 05:10:06 2009 From: sabine at 3d-metrics.com (Sabine K McNeill) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:10:06 +0100 Subject: [Netreach-L] Staying connected by being green In-Reply-To: <4A09B370.7080204@jeanlambertmep.org.uk> References: <4A09B370.7080204@jeanlambertmep.org.uk> Message-ID: <011e01c9d380$bac53210$304f9630$@com> Dear Jean Many thanks indeed for your thoughtful and encouraging response! I Cc people who will take heart! In these times of 'crisis ', it's hard to know what remains worth doing, except raising awareness about the various ways of systemic oppression, which means understanding systems, rather than get stuck on content and definitions. For in the end, words such as in The Law don't even get respected any more: the outcome of court cases is decided ahead of time, and lawyers have become unethical. The only thing that counts is brute force, i.e. people who are 'just doing their job': military, police, sheriffs. But information and virtual relationships will prevail! For 'they' who control the systems, are only 1.7% of humanity. That's what I was told in 1981 by the late Bernard Benson who had contributed to Trident, but later in life wrote The Peace Book which brought me to London. It comprises the military, arms producers, politicians, scientists and financiers. The net with 'virtual money' continues to be our only hope in these 'interesting' times. With 'globally warm' regards, Best wishes for your activities in spreading 'greenness'! Sabine 3D Metrics, Director Forum for Stable Currencies, Organiser and Promoter 21a Goldhurst Terrace London NW6 3HB T: 020 7328 3701 M: 07968 039 141 From: JeanLambert Office [mailto:office at jeanlambertmep.org.uk] Sent: 12 May 2009 18:36 To: sabine at 3d-metrics.com Subject: Re: Letter from your constituent Sabine K McNeill Dear Sabine, Many thanks for your recent email expressing your concerns about the Telecoms Package. As you may know, the Telecoms Package was voted on in the European Parliament on 6 May 2009. I and my Green party colleagues are very strongly committed to protecting the rights of internet users, and believe that unrestricted access to the internet is an essential right for a functioning information society, which should not be curbed simply at the whim of large media firms. For this reason, the Greens re-tabled an amendment (originally amendment 138) to protect citizens' rights and prevent the arbitrary restriction of internet access. We were delighted that this amendment was adopted in plenary, which is a victory for citizens' rights. I, along with my Green colleagues, have been very committed to this dossier, and requested a re-ordering of the votes in plenary which led to the amendment, originally tabled by German Green MEP, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, being adopted. For more information please see the Greens press release: http://www.greens-efa.org/cms/pressreleases/dok/284/284020.telecom_package at e n.htm Unfortunately, in another section of the Telecoms Package, the Harbour report, the adopted definition of net neutrality was not good enough to ensure that traffic Management Policies cannot be used for anti-competitive purposes. Greens are committed to working hard on this issue in the next legislature. All the amendments tabled by the Greens for the vote on the Harbour report concerned citizens' rights. I would like to draw you attention to a public survey on the internet that the European Commission DG Information Society (http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/index_en.htm) will be launching in the coming weeks. I encourage you to express your views there, because that will be important in influencing future legislation in the field of online content. If you have additional questions, please contact the Green group advisor in charge of this dossier: laurence.vandewalle at europarl.europa.eu. Yours sincerely, Jean Lambert MEP Green Party Member of the European Parliament for London -----Original Message----- From: Sabine K McNeill [mailto:sabine at 3d-metrics.com] Sent: Wed 29/04/2009 6:19 PM To: Jean Lambert Subject: Letter from your constituent Sabine K McNeill This message was also sent to: Robert Evans MEP, John Bowis OBE MEP, Charles Tannock MEP, Claude Moraes MEP, Baroness Sarah Ludford MEP, Gerard Batten MEP, Mary Honeyball MEP, Syed Kamall MEP Sabine K McNeill 21a Goldhurst Terrace London NW6 3HB Email: sabine at 3d-metrics.com Wednesday 29 April 2009 Dear Robert Evans, Syed Kamall, Mary Honeyball, John Bowis OBE, Baroness Sarah Ludford, Claude Moraes, Charles Tannock, Jean Lambert and Gerard Batten, If the following excerpt from the link given below is accurate, please encourage all your MEP colleagues to vote against these rules. The internet as we know it is at risk because of proposed new EU rules going through at the end of April. Under the proposed new rules, broadband providers will be legally able to limit the number of websites you can look at, and to tell you whether or not you are allowed to use particular services. It will be dressed up as 'new consumer options' which people can choose from. People will be offered TV-like packages - with a limited number of options for you to access. It means that the Internet will be packaged up and your ability to access and to put up content could be severely restricted. It will create boxes of Internet accessibility, which don't fit with the way we use it today. This is because internet is now permitting exchanges between persons which cannot be controlled or "facilitated" by any middlemen (the state or a corporation) and this possibility improves the citizen's life but force the industry to lose power and control. that's why they are pushing governments to act those changes. Sharing your passion for the net, Sabine 3D Metrics, Director Forum for Stable Currencies, Organiser and Promoter 21a Goldhurst Terrace London NW6 3HB T: 020 7328 3701 M: 07968 039 141 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fundacja ICPPC" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: Don't let the EU parliament lock up the Internet! > URGENT - VOTING IN EU PARLIAMENT 5th of MAY 2009 > > http://www.wykop.pl/ramka/172206/warunkowy-dostep-do-internetu-glosuj-przeci wko > dfa0b3e33fc9fb18f2a7/1b452e8688bf00add223 (Signed with an electronic signature in accordance with subsection 7(3) of the Electronic Communications Act 2000.) [ This message was sent by WriteToThem.com. If you have had any problems receiving this message, please email team at writetothem.com and we'll get back to you. See www.writetothem.com for more details about the service. 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